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(Israeli Committee for Right of Residency) ICRR, a communist front group, upset by IAM

 

 Aharon Eviatar <arkee@post.tau.ac.il>  to ICRR
 show details  Feb 12 


http://www.israel-academia-monitor.com/index.php

Our friends are monitoring us well and ICRR has come under scrutiny. Joe McCarthy is alive and well in Israel.
Arkee


 
 Dorothy <dor_naor@netvision.net.il>  to icrr
 show details  Feb 12 


Yep, even I, who am not an academic, get into the act.  My gut feeling is that the right feels threatened.  It has to go to extremes to counter the good that all those on the list of this website are doing.  In any event, except for curiosity about what is being said (and i don't plan to go to this site again), most of its readers are like-thinkers as those doing the website.  It's unlikely to convince anyone else.  Of course, should the government start to act on the info in it, and take the position that all who oppose zionism or oppose occupation, or oppose Israeli govmt policy are
traitors, then we might have problems.  But I doubt that will happen soon, even with Lieberman's best efforts.  It might happen, though.  When it does,
we'll have to think about what to do. Meanwhile, we go on doing whatever we
can to change the situation.
Dorothy

 Snait Gissis <gissis@post.tau.ac.il>  to icrr
 show details  Feb 12 


Hello,

 The question is how do they have the letters sent only on icrr list?


 Dorothy <dor_naor@netvision.net.il>  to Aharon, Hege, ICRR
 show details  Feb 13 

Frankly, it would be disappointing to be excluded from such an eminent collection of personages.
Dorothy
----- Original Message -----
From: Aharon Eviatar
To: Dorothy
Cc: Hege Hermansen ; ICRR Group
Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2007 12:18 AM
Subject: Re: israel-academia-monitor.com - Home


Friends, I posted this as a joke.  I have lived with the Shabak on my phone and in my mail for a decade and there is nothing to worry about.  We do not have a mole and email is open to every hacker with a mouse and a modem.
Let us not be paranoid about this.  I find it amusing.  So many of us are on the S.H.I.T. list that we can be sure to be known to all the rightist loonies.  So what?
Arkee 

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Dorothy wrote:
I still haven't found a string of letters, and really don't want to waste time looking for them through all that trash.  I did find some emails that we sent--reports of our last meeting, Rachel's letter to the Germans and Greeks, etc.  So, either we have a mole on our list, or perhaps some of these things are on Google, who knows!
 
  I think that we should continue just the way we are.  We have nothing to
hide.  And to stop and try secrecy, would mean that we'd be playing right into the hands of those who set up these websites.  I mean, we have no way of knowing whether or not our phones are tapped, too.  When the shabak starts arresting us, that will be another story.  For the time being, we have work to do, and I suggest that we do it without being afraid of our shadow. I don't believe that universities are going to fire people on the list.  They'd have to fire lots of their
best-known and most intelligent faculty members!  But I can't speak for those of you who are academics.
If you disagree, please voice your opinion.  We are a group, a committee, after all.
Best, Dorothy
 
 
 
----- Original Message -----
From: Hege Hermansen
To: Dorothy
Sent: Monday, February 12, 2007 10:15 PM
Subject: Re: israel-academia-monitor.com - Home


Hi Dorothy,
 
Not just the letter, a looong string of emails from the ICRR group is posted along with the report of last Thursday's meeting and other stuff (as I'm sure you've already seen).
What does this mean for continued use of the list?
 
Hege
 
 Snait Gissis <gissis@post.tau.ac.il>  to icrr
 show details  Feb 13 

Hello,


 i agree that we cannot possibly start having secrecy procedures.  My only
caveat is the following: at times, though, we may plan actions whose effectiveness may decrease if they are exposed before they actually take place. i have no idea how to prevent that.

 


 Ps i hope that when i become a grandmother, i can show my grandchildren
some of the best photos i had ever had taken of me as a young woman; they are all in the various shoo-shoo orgs. files.

Dorothy wrote:
I still haven't found a string of letters, and really don't want to waste time looking for them through all that trash.  I did find some emails that we sent--reports of our last meeting, Rachel's letter to the Germans and Greeks, etc.  So, either we have a mole on our list, or perhaps some of these things are on Google, who knows!
 
  I think that we should continue just the way we are.  We have nothing to
hide.  And to stop and try secrecy, would mean that we'd be playing right into the hands of those who set up these websites.  I mean, we have no way of knowing whether or not our phones are tapped, too.  When the shabak starts arresting us, that will be another story.  For the time being, we have work to do, and I suggest that we do it without being afraid of our shadow. I don't believe that universities are going to fire people on the list.  They'd have to fire lots of their
best-known and most intelligent faculty members!  But I can't speak for those of you who are academics.
If you disagree, please voice your opinion.  We are a group, a committee, after all.
Best, Dorothy
 
 
 
----- Original Message -----
From: Hege Hermansen
To: Dorothy
Sent: Monday, February 12, 2007 10:15 PM
Subject: Re: israel-academia-monitor.com - Home


Hi Dorothy,
 
Not just the letter, a looong string of emails from the ICRR group is posted along with the report of last Thursday's meeting and other stuff (as I'm sure you've already seen).
What does this mean for continued use of the list?
 
Hege
 
On 12/02/07, Snait Gissis <gissis@post.tau.ac.il> wrote:

Hello,

The question is how do they have the letters sent only on icrr list?

 

Reply Forward Invite Snait to Gmail
 
 


 "jkatriel@techunix.technion.ac.il"  to icrr, Snait, icrr
 show details  Feb 13 


Dear Snait,

No need to wait until you are a grandmother and the shabak archieves open (whichebver comes first). There are pictures of you, that I took, in: http://www.yairgil.com/Ariel-College050504/index.htm

Jacob

 


That sounds great! Thanks. Am forwarding this to the ICRR
Dorothy
----- Original Message -----
From: Hege Hermansen
To: Dorothy
Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2007 1:21 AM
Subject: Re: israel-academia-monitor.com - Home


Absolutely, and sorry if I initially was hit by paranoia :-)
just came home from a good meeting with the group here supporting the right to enter work - it's a kind of 'grandmothers for peace' type of group of strong, tough older women who won't stop hassling norwegian politicians about the middle east - I always feel inspired by them.  the focus at the moment is on the letter writing campaign and targeting the ministry of foreign affairs (and by extension, TA embassy).
all best,
hege
 
On 13/02/07, Dorothy <dor_naor@netvision.net.il > wrote:
Thanks, Hege.  So what?  We keep on with our important work, regardless. Best, Dorothy
----- Original Message -----
From: Hege Hermansen
To: Dorothy
Sent: Monday, February 12, 2007 11:32 PM
Subject: Re: israel-academia-monitor.com - Home


here, for example
http://www.israel-academia-monitor.com/index.php?type=large_advic&advice_id=4577&page_data[id]=176&the_session_id=5aa4ed732ecb3b437fd637ab81dbedc2&cookie_lang=en


 
On 12/02/07, Dorothy <dor_naor@netvision.net.il > wrote:
Oh, Hege, I didn't see that.  Thanks for telling me.  I'll look again.  Dorothy
 
----- Original Message -----
From: Hege Hermansen
To: Dorothy
Sent: Monday, February 12, 2007 10:15 PM
Subject: Re: israel-academia-monitor.com - Home


Hi Dorothy,
 
Not just the letter, a looong string of emails from the ICRR group is posted along with the report of last Thursday's meeting and other stuff (as I'm sure you've already seen).
What does this mean for continued use of the list?
 
Hege
 
On 12/02/07, Snait Gissis <gissis@post.tau.ac.il > wrote:

Hello,

The question is how do they have the letters sent only on icrr list?

 

 

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Information on IRCC

http://www.jvjp.ch/de/Artikel/ICRR-EU.pdf

 

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